View Full Version : black folks/tats
vslg1
December 8th, 2008, 10:39 AM
I'm noticing on black folks...after powdering...it seems to take away some of the luster...of the tat...any suggestions...
glamrock
December 8th, 2008, 12:59 PM
yes my suggestion is not using the term "black folks" . its offensive.
drcorey
December 8th, 2008, 01:15 PM
yes my suggestion is not using the term "black folks" . its offensive.
yeah, just call them blacks like everyone else does.
they call us whites, thou I am not white, I am sort of a tan pink.
hondo305
December 8th, 2008, 01:42 PM
Racial terms aside, put a layer of white ink down first, then rock the stecncil back and forth once allowing it to lift off the skin and then press back down. This moves the stencil a little bit, so when you spray the colors on, there are some white edges that really makes the design pop.
Sir TatsAlot
December 8th, 2008, 01:57 PM
I think heor she his talking about the powder making the tatoo dull right after you apply it. This does this on white skin also. Powdered dull look will go away and color should come back after little while.
Tiki Carol
December 8th, 2008, 03:57 PM
what hondo305 said but tell the customer
"I'm laying down a base".
For some reason it makes the sale go smoother.
vslg1
December 8th, 2008, 08:54 PM
I did notice that it went away after awhile...Glad to hear it happens like that on all skin colors...
I do like the idea of the the white base...but since I'm just getting started...I'm really only trying to offer 1 or 2 colors for now...and of course white wasn't one of them..lol
Offensive huh? Are you serious...? If we spent all of our lives looking for things that offend us...or steering clear of all words that could be offensive...we as a people probably wouldn't talk much...
I'm not offended by it...What word would you prefer I use...I'm sure someone would be offended by it as well...
drcorey
December 8th, 2008, 09:04 PM
now the question is, is it a freebase, or do you charge?
I can hear it now. hey man, the tattist over there is giving away freebase...
Ladyoh
December 9th, 2008, 11:42 AM
but since I'm just getting started...I'm really only trying to offer 1 or 2 colors for now...and of course white wasn't one of them..lol
I would highly suggest that you add white to your colors, and just automatically use it as a base, when you are laying yellow or orange, on anyone but the whitest white person. Those colors tend to look dull or not show up on anyone with anything else. I have noticed that people with really dark skin will look at my pictures then start to walk by; we have gotten into the habit of saying; "Don't walk by, I can do rainbow colors on YOU!" You would not BELIEVE how excited people get, and NOT just the kids!
I tell them that the powder sets the ink, it will look ashy just until it fades-which doesn't take long, then the colors will pop again.
And we use the white regardless of skin tone, if 'rainbow' is requested.
Ladyoh
vslg1
December 9th, 2008, 03:25 PM
So you guys are saying to put the white down...let it set...and then spray the colored right on top as if the person was white to begin with...or slightly move the stencil so that it looks more like an outline/shadow?
gr8flgrl
December 9th, 2008, 03:46 PM
this is the first time i've been on in a few months, been kinda busy with other stuff. So to join in the fray re: folks.
Folks is best word in the english language to describe humans and our distinct differences with out hate speech implication. Folks is the grounding word used to emphasize what we have most in common, being human. Its used to describe every imaginable difference you can think of:
white folks, black folks, womenfolk, menfolk, Pakistani folks, diabetic folks, blond folks, just plain folks, crazy folks, those folks up north, those folks down south, tattooed folks, New Jersey folks, etc.. :)
Ladyoh
December 9th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Either or, really it's up to you. Usually I just lay the white and by the time I have put my white brush down and pick up my PP brush I am ready to go. I generally get a bit of a shadow regardless, between me moving and my customer breathing, wiggling, laughing, the stencil shifts a tad.
Ladyoh
Tat2guy
December 9th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Hi vslg1: Welcome! If you put a lite layer of white down on darker skin it will make the colors pop. The darker the skin, the colors are more muted and when your customers compare there tat to say a lighter skin person they will not be as satified with the tat. I had a little girl this summer who was adopted into a white family and they had all gotten one except her. And I asked her how come she didn't want one. She said it wouldn't look the same as her sisters, she was almost in tears. I told her I could make hers as beautiful as her sisters if she wanted. She let me do it and when the stencil came off hers was more vibarant and colorfull then her sisters was. She was very happy.
on time
December 9th, 2008, 05:35 PM
Loyd,
I have to agree I did a teen event earlier this year and did not put a white base on female that was of african american decent, it didnt come out to well so i told to let me redo it. I put a white under coat and it actually looked alot better than all the others I did that day. Maybe its the darker skin that helps make it pop???
needless to say she was very happy with it.
vslg1
December 9th, 2008, 11:20 PM
white paint it is...Thanks everyone...I noticed my "hot pink" doesn't pop the way I'd like...and my two guinea pigs...(daughters) are fairly light skinned...
one1wizard
December 10th, 2008, 07:54 PM
Hello vslg1,
when I do a show and I get any dark skin clients I always cover the tat in white with no charge. they only see the one color when it's done. now if they asked for say 2 colors, I would give them white as the base and then the 2 colors they ask for. the white must be used as a base first. I do not charge for the base white for one reason, it will make the tat look great. its not there fault that they needed a base color. And I don't give a dam on white people or black, they are all clients that deserve the best tats I can give them.
I am more interested in the client walking away being happy then saying the unhappy.
Tony
atattoo4u@comcast.net
drcorey
December 10th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Hello vslg1,
when I do a show and I get any dark skin clients I always cover the tat in white with no charge. they only see the one color when it's done. now if they asked for say 2 colors, I would give them white as the base and then the 2 colors they ask for. the white must be used as a base first. I do not charge for the base white for one reason, it will make the tat look great. its not there fault that they needed a base color. And I don't give a dam on white people or black, they are all clients that deserve the best tats I can give them.
I am more interested in the client walking away being happy then saying the unhappy.
Tony
atattoo4u@comcast.net
ah ha! freebase!
on time
December 10th, 2008, 11:23 PM
for me some colors look better with a white base regardless of skin color. for example blue looks blue but with a white base it looks a little brighter.
pplbronx2
February 17th, 2009, 05:47 PM
I saw the colors pop with the colors but not with the black. Nic pics
Alan
February 19th, 2009, 03:03 PM
Personally I think that sometimes we worry to much. Whenever we powder a tat it has the effect of aging. This is irrespective of skin colour. My view is that black tats on dark skins look really cool. They have a depth.
Coloured tats, yes I put down a base on dark skins or ultraviolets.
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HPR
October 11th, 2009, 06:26 AM
I am doing a volunteer gig at church, and though I am white and most of the congregants are white I live in an all black neighborhood. Since it is a Halloween party I had just planned on black and orange since I have two brushes. My wife told me that unlike other events this really draws our neighbors so I have to think about what two colors are good for halloween and dark and light skin.
I may bite the bullet and get a third brush.
This is all charity no money involved except what I spend
Thanks,
Tommy
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